Me and all my circle of karaoke friends in the bay area couldnt wait to get to karaoke world to see what the latest sound choice cdg were back in the day .You knew what day the new cdg was coming out and you knew you just had to be the first to sing it !I was like a kid in a candy store and when i ripped off my plastic and placed my cdg in the player to practice or sing it was like heaven on earth! Back in the day there were only three major brands competing Pioneer,dk and sound choice !Yeah there were smaller brands with wack versions like nutech that would try to compete with songs that werent offered by the Big three as we used to call them but they would always fall off .You still have a few of those smaller companys that are still hanging by a thread like sunfly but once again they lack direction and they too will soon fold. Where does that leave us today? That leaves us with the Big one major Sound choice trying to hold off the smaller monthly billboard chart producers and a bunch of bootleggers and other companys that try but are normally gone in a matter of months or a year or two. That brings me back to my original narrative What ever happened to the focus and drive and desire and power that used to be weilded by sound choice? I used to think their motto was hammer all other karaoke competetors with swiftness/quality/ and effective brand name and buyer dedication! BC have you lost the war or do you still have the fire in your belly to do this? Karaoke is still loved by millions and millions I have dedicated singers coming to my shows on a weekly basis rain ,sleet or shine! Yes i know its cutthroat out there we all do but who is going to stand up and conquer all ? From what i've been witnessing lately it looks like sound choice is waiting for a buyer to purchase the company and its valuable back catalogs of licensing.(AKA BAZOOKA JOE) If that is the case it sucks that sound choice as we once knew it is going to be no more as it goes by way of the corporate world sold to the highest bidder of monthly services only to blend in with the others. ALAS POOR YOREK WE KNEW THEE WELL!
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Sunfly has been around for like 12 years, they're pretty much the leader in the UK for karaoke... I don't think they're going anywhere any time soon.
Sound Choice is the best still, without a doubt.
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In various posts on here, it sounds like the Slep brothers have found some new business ventures and aren't interested in throwing good money after bad focusing on karaoke. I'm sure SC is still the preferred music supplier to pirates and bootleggers everywhere LOL.
I think you guys are missing the point of my blog! What i'm trying to get across is the fact that recently there is a huge drop off of new releases from sound choice that used to come out monthly and when i say monthly i mean that every month sound choice used to come out with the best rock, oldies , soul/r&b , top 40 and not to mention spotlights that covered every genre. Now when they come out with something new it seems to lack creative out of the box thinking behind the disc releases. Re-releases of the same songs over and over and over doesnt quite do it for me anymore. What exactly is the meaning of kj requests lists if we the kj's who serve the public and bars and nightclubs , and pub's and wherever karaoke is needed listen to what the customers want and relay it to BC and for the most part our requests are falling upon empty ears. I have the same singers coming to me year after year asking did you get that song yet i 've been asking you for ?and all you can do is say no over and over year after stinking year . I read the web sites most loyal chatters on here and they sound like very sucessful kj's. maybe my opinion doesnt count as squat on here but what weight do these other kj's requests carry? I've seen them post the same requests over and over and over for years and years on here only to finally be beat down by BC and give up . To me that is like taking a persons dreams and desire and heart and soul away from them when they ask you for stuff and they are loyal to you to a fault and you dont reward them with at least one song for their troubles BC i think one song off a mans/womans request list who has asked you for it repeatedly isnt going to send you into bankruptcy. We on this site all love and support sound choice ! How many sound choice discs do i have in my book ? Hundreds o.k. now please it's time to listen to us kj's BC! I'm gonna call out some heavy hitters on this site and ask what year did you last recieve one of your requests on a new release ?WORLDWYDE, SHOWTIMECALLS, KINGTONY, KNIGHTSHOW, LONMAN, JASONPOWER, GEMINALE, MARKSPECK, LEHIDUDE, MARCOLAKE, MR.WONDERFUL, DANJ,STAN, ULTIMATEFAN, FRANKV, HDIVER, TOURUN, DAVIDE, BRIAN, MIKEW, KURTSLEP, DJMADMAXX, RJTHE1GOD, L'OPERAVOCE, GRATEFUL, ANTHONYT, MARKCHEETAH, DIANE, DOG, PONY, STACY, RCTHEDJ, ROCKHAWK, MARKATZOFF, THAT70'SGUY, TJMAT, GEORGEGHETTO:eek
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I'm pretty sure some of the country songs I requested came out on the July new discs. Not that the requests were anything that wouldn't have come out anyway.
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a lot of songs I have requested have shown up, not the oddball stuff but there have been times when BC has responded to me saying they would look into a song at least
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Well alot of my requests are a little obscure to most eyes but alot of my requests make it on the 70-80s mama blush HB pop hits and Country.
Not to mention some they are trying to get permission for right now there are 3 songs ive requested as others have as well.
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The reasons for the drop off in new music are simple. They have been discussed on this board far too many times. But, in the spirit of the season, I'll list a few for you.
First and foremost, PIRACY,(need I say more?)
Secondly, GREED, the cost of licensing and negotiating the labirynth of multiple "rights" owners.
Third, (subject to opinion), the lack of market sustainability of not only the song but the artist. (return on investment).
Posts: 902 | From: Joliet,IL.USA | Registered: Oct 2001
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I've gotten t a minimum Long Live Rock and Looking for a Love this year, both of which were high on my list and both of which are greatly appreciated.
Mister Music, I don't view SC as owing me anything, nor do I think sheer persistance by one or two people necessarily means that it makes sense to produce a track. There is a poster on another forum who every few months re-runs a list of a 100 requests or so because one of his customers requested the songs, ranging from mainstream or obscure. If say 50 people on this board agreed on a request, than maybe you could say there's something to it. I also wish Sound Choice would put out more discs of unproduced material but if they feel that short term it makes more business sense to exploit the catalog they've got in different ways, then I just hope for a change in the market and a return to the old Sound Choice production levels down the road.
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I figure atleast a dozen of songs I either requested or "2nd" saw the light of day. So, I am quite happy with SC. I am only dissappointed that the HB disc has yet to be released.
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although they say "unintentually" many, many, many times........check out my 70'/80's and even the one i reposted from brian. througout the years...it worked. hopefully in the future, it will work also!!!!!
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I've had a couple of my wishes done--namely the Beach Boys Heroes and Villains (very well done!), and Julian Lennon's Valotte.
I'm still biting my nails hoping some of the mainstream 70's and 80's pop/country artist songs get done that aren't available anywhere in karaoke yet (Chicago, Wings, Three Dog Night, Stevie Wonder, Godley & Cream, Beatles, Boz Scaggs, Kinks, Gene Watson, George Strait, The Judds). Bite...bite...bite... Posts: 683 | From: seattle,wa,usa | Registered: Oct 2003
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Quite a few of my requests have come to reality, but I would be presuming too much to think that I was the sole deciding factor. There are a few more of my requests that still have not come to being. However, I found that you have to be patient.
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So i guess none of you kj's care about the part that i mentioned about sound choice was bought by stingray music group and thats why we dont get as many cdg's produced anymore.
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actually, I just avoid most of your posts in general... that whole "Get on board the soul train" from you and others is so aggrivating, it's all noise after that.
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Well if he would have read the answer, Sound Choice wasn't bought out, here's a quote from BC in the thread MM asked.
quote:A percentage of certain assets of Sound Choice were used as the basis to form a new company with Stingray Digital, and the new company is a partnership with Stingray Digital and the Slep brothers and is called Stingray Music Group.
Sounds like they are expanding their business...not uncommen in the business world. Who knows maybe just what was needed TO be able to produce more tracks, be patient & wait & see. The karaoke world is changing, Sound Choice has to do what they have to do to adapt, if it means producing less music for the kj, while sad, I completely understand. The kj is not their prime source anymore like it once was. The home karaoke market has exploded in the past couple years & this has become the main source of their target.
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I just noticed they are working on doing Billy Talent's Try Honesty
that's been one of my requests ever since I started posting here!
-------------------- Be still my heart This could be a brand new start with you <3 Posts: 1242 | From: Lakewood, Ohio | Registered: Jan 2005
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The Soul Train is barely chugging "I Think I Can"
Since I'm not a Heavy Hitter, I'll still put in my 98 cents short of a dollar. Rarely my requests have been made, but by the time SC has created it, I have found other sources of that song and has already acquired it and now since the American dollar is dropping more I will have to spend more on the English Pound to get the song. But I'm not a KJ just a hobbyist but the KJs prefer SC on their business.
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Once again knight i do read most of your stuff as long as its nice and informative but your mean put downs of others knowledge sometimes confounds me. as i tell others all the time "hey relax it's just karaoke" like the eagles say "take it easy"
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I was meditating the other day on what would be the best way to get the songs created that I want. How does SC know if it is worthwhile to do my songs...aye, that is the problem. What would be cool is if there were a way for me to put a little investment up front, say $15 to $20. I submit a list of songs that are viewable by all on this board. Others can submit a similar list. The whole list goes into a big matrix that we can all see. I can look at the whole list and see what additional songs others have suggested that I would be willing to have the money go towards. So in the end there is a big list of songs we all are hoping for. Each of us can log in and vote which songs we would be willing to have our money go towards. From that list SC can do the ones that make sense. I'm sure this plan is deeply flawed, but how else would you determine what will go or not, and get the songs cranking out? I want to be able to see what everyone has suggested in the past year, and yea or nea which I'd be willing to spend money on...
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I agree, this would be nice. Here's my pie in the sky scenario.
Sound Choice could create a web site for this. Separate links would exist for each type of disk (60's / 70's, Headbangers, Mama, etc.). Registered users would submit 15 song wish lists. If the web site was built properly, it would force users to submit songs which fall within the category (no Matchbox 20 in 60's/70's), and songs from certain artists would be rejected (Eagles). Users would commit to pay $20 for a 15 song disk of previously unreleased songs containing at least 4 of the 15 submitted songs (or $25 if at least 5 of the songs were included). Sound Choice could compile these numbers and use this site as a tool to help determine which songs should be recorded and released.
Your thoughts?
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It’s been a COOL minute since my last post. Not that I gave up, but a brotha's been busy. I noticed Matt has found someone else to pick on since my last post. You just don't learn dawg. Well anyhow, from all my post that I requested, Mister Music makes a great point about how SC is lagging behind on putting out CD every month like they used to. When I was working for Ace, Sound Choice wasn't making good sales as far as new music monthly like them competitors from Nashville and even the UK. Also Steller Still puts out CD's on a monthly basic keeping up with the younger generation. The last song I remember requesting that SC made was "I Put a Spell on You" by Screamin' Jay Hawkins. My other request that made it was "Fire & Desire". To my knowledge, SC8984 was the last purple CD SC has put out since last December. Hopefully SC won't bow down to those other guys and allow them to put out new stuff and steal out request and make money off of it.
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i have to say that most of the requests i've made in the last while have been done 'cept for the canadian stuff lol. i mean i bugged and bugged BC about MCR for how long lol, and what did i get ... finally a version of welcome to the black parade with all the RIGHT lyrics for a change lol, and the bird and the worm to boot, i'm happy!
-------------------- Lead Me Not Into Temptation ... I Can Find It Myself !! Posts: 143 | From: NB,Canada | Registered: Sep 2006
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I think if they want to save money on CD+G discs, they should get right out of the pressed disc entirely, and go strictly with custom discs. If it could save them a few thousand bucks a month printing 1000 copies of each disc, I'm all for it.
Include everything that's available in the Custom end, and that way people can freely pick and choose which ones of the latest crop they want.
Make it an automated system, with a database on the back end that everytime someone "checks out" or buys a song, count down. After it's been bought 1000 times, it'll be no longer available until SC pays the royalties for it again.
Because you would be buying a physical disc, there are no digital rights violations.
It's a simple bit of code that could be implemented perfectly, would give SC a barometer of which songs are worth the amount they're spending to have it produced, and it controls the cost of their inventory.
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