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I would love to see a second volume of The Rolling Stones be made available in the forseeable future. Almost any bar I go to, a Stones tune is an instant hit with the crowd. Here's what I'd like to see on it, if it should become available:
SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL RUBY TUESDAY PAINT IT BLACK HONKY TONK WOMEN JUMPIN' JACK FLASH SHE'S A RAINBOW THE LAST TIME WILD HORSES MIXED EMOTIONS HAS ANYBODY SEEN MY BABY I CAN'T GET NO (SATISFACTION) UNDER MY THUMB GET OFF OF MY CLOUD BROWN SUGAR ROCK AND A HARD PLACE
With the much hyped "40 Licks" cd compilation coming out, what better time than now to compile a 2nd Stones Spotlight disk? Anyway, just a thought.
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At the risk of overstating the obvious: there are NO lyrics or graphics on 8040. SC has NEVER done those two songs in a manner that requires the license ABKCO refuses to grant.
What other companies do or don't do is of absolutely NO consequence as to our legal considerations.
In other words: NO DIFFERENCE as to what I've already stated.
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That's a real shame. It's unfortunate the above songs will never recieve the Sound Choice treatment. I've heard other companies' versions of the above songs, but many of them are terrible. I speak of the Backstage collection in particular as well as a few tracks from the Legends series. As I had stated in my original post, Stones tunes are instant hits at bars, and pretty much everywhere. It's too bad licensing prohibits them from being produced.
Actually, I don't know if this means anything but the "40 LICKS" double CD compilation released today was produced by VIRGIN Records. So I'm wondering if there was a change in the ownership of the songs. I really don't know anything about licensing, etc. But if in truth, Virgin does own the rights, it may be something worth looking into.
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The "rights" or ownership of the song masters and catalog, as opposed to the "rights" to the publishing on songs, are two totally different things. As often as not, there can be, and are, two different legal entities, with different owners. In a perfect world, if the songwriters/band were smart from the beginning there is one legal owner. But more often than not, a new, struggling band/artist has to sell off pieces of his/her work in order to get business financing and the record deal.
At this point, I'm guessing - guessing - that Mick and Keith, or the Stones as a business entity, own the rights to their original masters. But that doesn't mean that they own the publishing to the songs.
I would be interested in seeing what the publising info is, but my guess is that the old, classic hits are still owned and administrated by ABKCO. You don't typically give up multi-million dollar properties until and unless you are forced to. As I remember, the licensing of "Start Me Up" to Microsoft for Windows 98 was a <I>$10 million dollar payday</I>.
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BTW: "Start Me Up" is owned by Mick and Keith's publishing company. As are all their original songs since the changeover from ABKCO to them during the recording of Exile On Main Street.
They made the $10 million for the use of their song in the Windows commercials, not ABKCO.
I'm not up on the particulars, but in the past 10-20 years there has been much debate, negotiation and law regarding the ownership of publishing after "x" number of years and after the original songwriters pass away. I believe - but don't know for sure - that there has been some change in which the publishing ownership reverts to the original songwriter or the songwriter's estate after a certain number of years.
But I doubt that Mick and Keith (or at least Keith, anyway; good 'death pool' bet) will live to see the day when they just "get" their early songs back. They may be able to buy them back, but ABKCO isn't going to give up anything without a fight or being compelled to by law.
Publishing is like real estate. Some of it is swamp land, and some of it is 5th Avenue and 57th Street.
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At least Mick and Keith are willing to put their okay on karaoke, unlike another band from California who went through a long legal battle, but in THE LONG RUN finally got thier rights, but say No to karaoke, a shame. Especially since Linda Ronstandt let them shape thier band while being sidemen to her.
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While the Stones were in town for a few days the radio played "DooDooDooDooDoo (Hearbreaker)" during a marathon. It stood out and sounded cool and it ain't ABKCO! Could you guys consider releasing this song?
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Back in May, I posted some suggestions.....
Rolling Stones (the early days) "I Just Wanna Make Love to You" "Walking The Dog" "Little By Little" "Bye Bye Johnny" "Route 66" "It's All Over Now" "I Wanna Be Your Man" "Poison Ivy"
I've just played my "The Rolling Stones" LP that I bought in 1964. It still sounds brilliant. Nearly all covers, so does that mean there's a chance of Sound Choice including some of these ? Track 1 : Route 66. Track 2 : I Just Want To Make Love To You. Track 3 : Honest I Do. Track 4 : I Need You Baby. Track 5 : Now I've Got A Witness. Track 6 : Little By Little. Track 7 : I'm A King Bee. Track 8 : Carol. Track 9 : Tell Me (the only Jagger/Richard) Track 10: Can I Get A Witness. Track 11: You Can Make It If You Try. Track 12: Walking The Dog.
DKK did well to get the 'feel' on their version of "Carol".
I hope Sound Choice see fit to give us some more from this classic album.
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