I was wondering if there is any way I could email an MP3 or two to Sound Choice for those obscure Savatage, King Diamond, et al songs that might not otherwise get an opportunity to be reviewed for consideration for CDG?
I just kinda figure it would save SC the hassle of having to track this stuff down themselves as they surely have plenty high-priority items to look after each day.
Anyway, I intend NOT to got apesh*t with this method of song request submission, I just want to send in 1 or 2 MP3s every 2 to 4 weeks for karaoke consideration.
Based on past observations, I don't think Sound Choice would ever consider recording a song because it "sounds good" or it's a cool song. It costs SC quite a few bucks to produce a song, and if it's some "obscure" song... then who would ever buy the disc besides yourself?
SC is in business for a profit. Instead of trying to email MP3's, I would instead suggest justifing why SC should invest in creating a song - backing it up with song billboard chart history, album sales, artist popularity, maybe recent events that may bring the song back into the spotlight, etc.
There is another karaoke manuf. that supplies quick samples of their songs for the consumer to hear. I think Sound Choice could do one better and list 15 to 18 song snippets of a purposed disc lineup for the consumers to vote on. Sometimes hearing the song again can help you to remember it. I believe that if the sample is less than 30 seconds, that no royalties need to be paid, but I don't really know. And I think that SC could advertise this voting procedure on thier CD sleeves, thereby gaining internet traffic, & free consumer feedback. Am I waaaaay off base here?
Posts: 622 | From: Santa Ana | Registered: Jul 2001
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Yeah, it would be cool if that was available. I just think it would take a lot of time on SC's behalf to set it up considering how many songs they produce on a monthly basis. Companies like Sybersound (Partytime) do it, but they only make a disc every so often, therefore it's not a major project.
Quite often I will purchase a SC CDG just to hear well they did on the recordings - not even to sing the songs! So it would be nice to preview them here instead and save me some bucks.
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Maybe it's an ego thing. I mean if your the top fish and everybody knows it why do you need to have your stuff previewed?
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I've heard a few songs off of Top Hits or Pop Hits where I'd swear they simply copied an instrumental-only version of the song and added lyrics and backups. The owner of Pop Hits used to be notorious for doing this in the past with All Hits. I'll have to investigate it further.
Family Affair on THM, Smooth Criminal on PHM, Party Up on PHM, and The Real Slim Shady on PHM come to mind... I'll have to load the songs into my PC and compare the wav files against the original.
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Thanks to everyone on their feedback and suggestions re: the MP3 submission thing.
I guess it does make more sense to provide all the justification you all cited (chart postions, etc).
I sort of already did that in my Savatage topic, and I put this major post with the band's discography and history.
I really don't know anything about chart positions where bands (like Savatage) are concerned, because they are either overlooked or ignored for radio airplay, and they usually have chart postions numbers that are no smaller than three digits, if any at all.
This kind of stuff is pre-determined by record companies and the like anyway, basically telling the general public what to like, instead of allowing them to make up their own minds.
Cos when it comes to things like chart positions, I find that they're kind of unreliable. Just cos something doesn't make the top 10 or top 20 or even top 100, doesn't mean it's not good and people won't like it. Just means the band wasn't given a fair chance to prove themselves.
Chart positions are like movie critic ratings... absolutely meaningless, or, have reverse meaning. Ever go see a movie the critics raved about and when you saw it it was kinda crappy? Or a movie they said sucked, but you saw it and decided it was actually quite good? Same with music.
Record sales, I suppose would prove a little more. However, if a band does not have the same exposure as the bands and artists who are in the mainstream, then their stuff won't be readily available in the local record shop, and if that is the case, no one will see it while shopping for other stuff and even know of its existence. So that's kind of unreliable too... Y'know what I'm saying?
Record sales, ratings and chart positions really mean nothing. I make up my own mind based on my vast appreciation for music. (I hope I didn't give the impression that metal was the ONLY music I liked! I in fact like a little of everything) I hope SC will do the same. All I can say, is that the songs I submit, are ones I actually sang to (over the original CD) at karaoke, and found out which songs work well, and get a positive response (sometimes even requests).
All I can offer is a rave review on the band (see my Savatage topic) suggesting why they are a good band for karaoke, and NOT just cos I like them, but because they are a truly awesome band with a most unique music style that is well received by anyone who has the chance to hear it.
I hope I didn't run-on, or repeat myself too much in this post... I just had so much to say and little time to say it in... sorry for any confusion.
I hope I made my point though? And I hope SC will consider a couple Savatage songs for CDG (even if its just one or two to provide as fillers on upcoming headbanger hits discs)
The best "commercially" acceptable tunes would be : 01. Edge Of Thorns 02. Desirée 03. Gutter Ballet
and the best "traditional" metal songs would be: 01. Taunting Cobras 02. Doesn't Matter Anyway 03. Jesus Saves
I don't disagree with anything you've said in the above post, but I think you basically answered your question there. Karaoke companies can only rely on sales, charts etc to decide what they should produce for karaoke.
BC has been in the music business long enough to recognize quality music. I don't know what type of music he prefers to listen to, but I'm sure there are many times he's thought "Wow, great song." or "Great lyrics." Stuff like that. If he had an unlimited budget, he'd probably want to produce Spotlights of all his favourite artists, no matter how 'popular' they are/were. But, he has to be realistic with what he thinks will sell in the karaoke marketplace.
If the Backstreet Boys sell 15 million CDs of all popular radio music, and SC sells a few thousand CDG's of the same songs, how many CDG's do they think they can sell of an artist that hasn't sold many CDs themselves?
Well, Dan, I see what you are saying, and it does make sense.
However I may have not expressed myself clearly.
I may have implied that bands like Savatage have not made any record-breaking sales, or managed any chart positions worthy of mention, when the fact is, I don't know for sure, cos as I said, I don't follow that kind of thing, it means nothing to me. I don't let the opinions of others influence my deeming of what's 'good'. I mean, if someone says to me, "check these guys out, they rock", then I will, but ultimately, Iwill decide for myself whether they 'rock' or not.
That's all I am asking here. That Savatage (and Type O Negative and King Diamond and so on and so on) be given a fair shake.
Now, if one were to research it, one may find some commendable chart positions and sales for this (and other) band(s). However, I am not likely that 'one' to do it, cos research has never been my strongpoint - I never know where to begin. All I can do I offer a few names, recommend a few (hundred) tunes, and give my own objective review in hopes it will be considered.
The way I see it, any band that can last almost 20 years without as much exposure as the 'big names' must have something going for them. I think that in itself shows true staying power, and warrants consideration for CDG availability.
Savatage is one of those bands who gain popularity thru word-of-mouth and magazine (Metal Edge, Metal Maniacs, etc) coverage, not radioplay and MTV (though they did have a couple of their videos played on the music channels).
I really don't know what more I can say or do. Trust me, Savatage is a worthy band, simply for their unique style of music. I can practically guarantee there is something for everyone with this band, whether you like aggressive bone-crunching guitar riffs, or classical-like melodies.
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