Sad and unfortunate. Those guys took the same cue as Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five, Kurtis Blow, the Sugarhill gang, and all the street rappers in the Bronx. It was still a very localized NYC genre until they, along with Def Jam/Russell Simmons and Rick Rubin, legitimized it as a music form that the major labels realized they could make serious money with. They, in turn, paved the way for others like Public Enemy, LL Cool J, Kool Mo Dee and the gangsta rap niche NWA pioneered on the West Coast.
I wonder what exactly happened, stupid street violence, or some kind of personal dispute? You never know if you're going to see tomorrow.
quote:The RX21 ($79 from Karaoke.com) was unintimidating and sounded good. But the on-screen lyrics, which should change color when you're supposed to sing, barely changed hue. Singing "Say My Name" from Destiny's Child was challenging enough. But without proper prompting? Impossible. We told them about the hard-to-read lyrics; they sent a free replacement. It wasn't much better. (They offered to send a third when we identified ourselves as a reporter.)
I don't like how they're blaming the hard-to-read lyrics on the machine. The software is probably the problem. Not sure what kind of discs they're using, but I've noticed Chartbuster (and probably some others) have that problem. Not enough of a color change in the wipe.
Michael I would say Jenny should be glad I'm not gonna be in her audience as I'm the no holds barred girl. And for it to be on that show how many people do you think are really gonna watch she was moved up to that time because she's doing the trashy talkshow. I seen the post from Dominick on the other website and it looks like you have talked to him yourself. You can tell them when they want to run a positve/professional show on karaoke I would love to share when I returned to college at a later age with a family and working going out for karaoke once a week relieved alot of stress and It was alot of fun.You can tell her how I'm working on dream right now running karaoke is turning MY dream into a reality and you can tell her how I volunteer my system to the boys & girl club with my son running it once a week and see how these kids have fun. There is people on this board who make a very good living running karaoke there is so many positives about karaoke so tell them when they want the other side to give me a call. Maybe by then I'll have the book done. lol
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Thanks for the input,as you know then I was asked to be on the show but declined because of my schedule and wasnt sure what the show was about. I found out finally its about friends who have friends who are "OBSESSED" with Karaoke, well you know what that will mean, anyway I was flattered to be asked to Co star with her on the show but without any time to find out about what would be on it I didnt want to take the chance. When they let the "Karaoke Community" show them the positive side of Karaoke then I will participate and I know all of you will too. I love the show you do for Boys and Girls clubs that is terrific and congratulations to you as well.....MV
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It WOULD be nice to go on a show like that and to tell it like it is, I just don't think the producers would allow it. They love to make fun of stuff, and unfortunately, for those not INTO Karaoke, it's a laugher for them.
Where would we be without an Axl Rose story.
Guns N' Riot 2 hours, 4 minutes ago By Josh Grossberg
Talk about an appetite for destruction.
What was supposed to be a night of rock 'n' roll revelry turned into a rock 'n' roll nightmare for thousands of fans hoping to see the revamped Guns N' Roses tear it up Thursday night in Vancouver for the opening of their long-awaited Chinese Democracy North American tour.
That's because promoters called off the concert more than an hour before it was supposed to begin on account of frontman Axl Rose (news) pulling a, well, Axl Rose and failing to show up for the gig.
The cancellation was too much for the 10,000 or so ticked-off fans who came from far and wide to see the platinum-selling rockers' first tour in nine years.
When the doors to Vancouver's General Motors Place arena failed to open at 6:30 p.m., a crowd began massing in front of the box office, chanting "Bull****, bull****."
At about 7:30 p.m., when an announcement was made that the show would not go on as scheduled, all hell broke loose, with the mob turning violent and storming the front gates to the arena.
Using metal guardrails used to queue ticketholders, the rioters began battering the arena's glass entry doors and smashing ticket booth windows, as well as windows on the upper level, to the cheers of other fans. Some set off fireworks. No serious injuries were reported.
To quell the stampeders and prevent extensive property damage, a small army of police officers rushed to the scene and used pepper spray, attack dogs and batons to disperse the crowd.
In other words, Paradise City it wasn't.
Perhaps the situation was even more severe considering Vancouvers past experience with Guns N' Roses. The last time around Axl and mates were slated to play Vancouver, the show was scrapped because of an earlier riot in Montreal that began when Rose refused to take the stage. (Rose has a history of rabble-rousing--two years before the Montreal incident, he started a crowd brawl when he dove into the audience to attack a fan.)
"That's it, I'm trashing all my GNR stuff," a fan named Dana Claydon told Vancouver's Providence. "I've been waiting for this since '93 when Axl canceled the last time. What a jerk."
That sentiment was likely shared by Rose's rent-a-bandmates. The sidemen arrived in Vancouver on Wednesday and rehearsed sans Rose, who was home in L.A. Apparently, that's how the newly braided Axl likes it.
GNR reps said Rose was MIA because his flight was held up due to mechanical problems. Promoters decided to nix the show when they learned Rose wouldn't make it to the auditorium by the band's 9:30 start time. Rose was supposedly in transit at the time of the cancellation. "Axl is gonna be ****ed," bassist Tommy Stinson told MTV News from backstage.
Tickets will be refunded; no make-up date has been announced.
With the Vancouver date scuttled, GNR, Axl included, plan to make Friday night's show in Tacoma, Washington the de facto tour opener.
Here's hoping they don't bring the house down again. Literally.
Interesting comment, Dan. I went to Vancouver in 94 to see the New York Rangers "win" the Stanley Cup in game 6 in person (for the first and only time in my lifetime). During the afternoon and evening I took a lot of friendly razzing from my Vancouver hosts and their friends about the rudeness of New Yorkers, and how that wasn't the case with polite Vancouverites.
Well, after the Canucks smoked the Rangers to force a Game 7, some of the more exuberant Vancouver fans turned the celebration into an event the Police had to quell, including burned cars, trashed storefronts, assault & battery and looting. What some law enforcement members characterized as "rioting".
Needless to say, that kind of stopped the New York comments.
BTW: After the Rangers triumphed at Madison Square Garden in Game 7, New Yorkers celebrated "peacefully", with a few arrests for drunken behavior, but no felony property destruction.
That's what I meant BC LOL. I think there was a small matter of some international summit not too long ago that had a bit of a disturbance as well. Peace loving Canucks we are.
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1992 I was all geared up for my first real rock concert, tickets to see Metallica/GNR at Foxboro Stadium. It got postponed after James had been set on fire at Montreal so I got to see them two months later. Faith No More opened and kick butt. Metallica comes on and sets the place afire(James even played the last song on guitar, since he was regulated to just singing after the accident). Then GNR took an hour and a half to get on stage after Metallica. The stadium already had to throw out a ton of people for rioting between sets. GNR comes on, and lemme tell you this. Axl Rose had the most out of tune vocals I have ever heard in my life. Of course it gets worst. Not even 20 min into the set there was already a guitar solo by Slash, a drum solo by what's his name, and Axl doing this thing with a piano before November Rain. That was enough for me and about 30,000 other people as we just left the building. We happend to have left just in time because after we got on the road, there was reports of rioting in the parking lot from unruley fans because GNR stunk it up so much. My first concert and I was right in the middle of a stadium riot, and just missed being apart of sensless destruction.
Before G & R became popular they played in Oshkosh and partied with everyone there. Ya know before the fame went to his head.
And frankly after watching him on the music awards when they pumped him up to the big surprise and it was G & R all the radio stations here said he was lip singing. I don't know if he was or not all's I could hear on the microphone was his breathing from being out of breath from running back and forth. He in't the **** that e thinks he is.
Axl can't sing live, period. He never could. He's a good studio singer, but that's, well, studio.
I've seen him in concerts and music awards, and he stunk it up each and every time. Hoarse, out of tune and out of breath. It's funny... I remember Jason Newstead from Metallica saying he saw Axl Rose backstage in Montreal, with a cigarette in one hand and a glass of champagne in the other, saying "You know, my voice don't feel so good. I don't think I'm going out there." All the while the crowd was rioting outside.
Jackson Browne settles lawsuit over Eagles songs
Friday, November 22, 2002 LOS ANGELES (AP) --
Rock star Jackson Browne and two other songwriters settled a lawsuit that claimed they were underpaid for their contributions to one of the Eagles' most popular albums, an attorney said Friday.
Browne, Jack Tempchin and J.D. Souther sued Warner-Chappell Music Inc. in February for more than $10 million.
An attorney for Brown and the others announced the settlement but refused to discuss specifics.
Warner-Chappell representatives did not immediately return calls for comment.
According to the lawsuit, the songwriters were supposed to be paid a fluctuating royalty rate for their contributions to "Eagles -- Their Greatest Hits, 1971-1974."
At the time of the suit, the rate was 7.5 cents per song.
Instead, they have been paid only about 2.5 cents per song since 1975 for the hits "Already Gone," "Best of My Love," "Peaceful Easy Feeling," and "Take it Easy," according to the suit, which sites an audit performed in 2000.
The album has sold more than 26 million copies, according to the lawsuit, which sought $10 million in back royalties plus punitive damages.
Tempchin wrote "Peaceful Easy Feeling," and co-wrote "Already Gone." Souther co-wrote "Best of My Love" and Browne co-wrote "Take it Easy."
The co-writers on the songs were Eagles members Don Henley and Glen Frey, who were not included in the lawsuit.
PluggedIn: Sing Like a Crow, Sound Like a Canary Sat November 23, 2002 07:38 AM ET By Ben Berkowitz LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - It's the impossible dream of enthusiastic shower singers everywhere: Being able to belt out a song without scaring the pets or small children.
Now, with help from a device just hitting store shelves nationwide, that dream could become a reality.
With the microphone-shaped Karaoke TV Star, IVL Technologies Ltd. -- a privately held Canadian company that has for the last 20 years built equipment for adjusting voices during professional music recording sessions -- has turned its attention to the amateur Pavarotti wanna-be's of the world.
Expected to be available by Thanksgiving at outlets of Wal-Mart Stores Inc., WMT.N the $69.99 device plugs into a television and uses a number of patented technologies developed by IVL to correct the pitch of even the worst voices.
"Far too many artists use our technology," Ed Pearson, executive vice president of sales and marketing for IVL, told Reuters.
Karaoke, a Japanese word meaning "empty orchestra," has developed a major following in American homes among folks who love singing along to their favorite songs and, through karaoke, can do so without the bother of the original singer getting in the way.
Wal-Mart, on its Web site, offers 11 different karaoke devices. The Web store of Circuit City Stores Inc. CC.N has at least six karaoke machines, while Best Buy Co. Inc. BBY.N sells seven karaoke units online.
The craze is also alive and well in Europe, where Hamleys, Britain's most famous toy store, predicted recently that karaoke machines would be among the top sellers for the holiday season.
The IVL unit comes with 50 songs built in and has a total capacity of 150. Via a speedy 12 megabit per second universal serial connection to a PC, it can be updated with any of about 1,000 downloadable songs, available for 99 cents each in groups of at least five.
In addition to correcting pitch, the unit can make a female voice sound male and vice versa. It can also make the voice so high-pitched it sounds like the singer has been inhaling helium; or very deep, in the vein of soul singer Barry White.
IVL is just the latest among many companies to tap the karaoke market. There is even a publicly-traded karaoke company, Florida-based Singing Machine Co. SMD.A , which reported $33 million in sales for the September quarter.
It also said gross shipments in October exceeded a record $31 million.
The company also makes branded karaoke machines for Viacom Inc.'s VIAb.N MTV and Nickelodeon units.
Jakks Pacific Inc. JAKK.O , a toy maker, recently launched a video karaoke machine that allows people to make their own music videos.
To promote the unit, the company is running a nationwide contest, with the winner getting to meet Backstreet Boys heartthrob Nick Carter.
A recent survey by Yahooligans, Yahoo Inc.'s YHOO.O Web guide for kids, found that the Jakks machine was No. 5 on a top-10 list of the toys kids most wanted for the season.
The Canadian Toy Testing Council, a nonprofit group that has evaluated toys since the 1950s, earlier this month named a karaoke machine made by a division of Hasbro Inc. HAS.N as a "Best Bet" for the holidays.
From : The fabulous Wailers, Kent Morrill, Buck Ormsby ….and more
It is with profound regret that this message is one of deep sadness. Richard Dangel, our great and wonderful friend, sensational person, and one of the greatest guitar players in the world passed away unexpectedly. He was discovered in his north Seattle home by his close friend Charlotte on Tuesday evening after failing to answer his phone and door. Richard celebrated his 60th birthday Sunday December 1, at the Swiss Club in Tacoma, Washington, performing with his Butter Bean band with members Michael Kinder and Buck Englund. Several musician friends attended the event to jam with Rich and wish him a happy birthday. The group was in top form that night, with Rich playing as amazingly as always, and as great as we have ever heard him. He will not only be sorely missed by his enormous family of musician friends, but by the world of music, his fans, and so many who have been entertained, inspired, and have learned so much from this wonderfully talented man.
Kent Morrill and I feel blessed to have had Richard as our long and devoted friend. Luckily we jammed with Rich and the boys on his birthday. It’s been a long run, and always an honor to perform with Rich as a fellow fabulous Wailer. We are fortunate to have so many fond memories of Richard and his impressive contribution to the world of music, whether it was jazz, blues, rock n roll, funk, Rich knew it, well. He had so much more to offer. Rest in peace now Richard. We all love you.
Guns N' Roses tour canceled Wednesday, December 11, 2002 Posted: 11:22 PM EST (0422 GMT) ---------------------------------------------
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- The first U.S. tour in nine years by hell-raising rock band Guns N' Roses officially fell apart Wednesday, as its promoter tersely announced the cancellation of the remaining shows on the ill-starred jaunt.
Clear Channel Entertainment released a two-paragraph statement that gave no reason for pulling the plug. But it followed days of speculation about the status of the group, whose only original member is volatile vocalist Axl Rose.
Rose, 40, did not show up to the group's December 7 show in Philadelphia, leading to a crowd disturbance. Then, six shows were scratched, even though the tour remained officially on.
In its statement, the Clear Channel Communications Inc. unit apologized to fans for any inconvenience and said refunds would be available. A spokeswoman for the band's Interscope Records label, a unit of Vivendi Universal SA, did not return a call seeking more details.
Guns N' Roses, famed for such hard rocking hits as "Welcome to the Jungle" and "You Could Be Mine," last played on December 5 to a sellout crowd at Madison Square Garden in New York City.
The tour began on an ominous note in Vancouver, B.C. last month, when fans rioted after Rose did not show up, apparently waylaid by a flight problem. The road show eventually got on its feet, although many venues were half-empty.
Rose, whose real name is William Bailey, co-founded Guns N' Roses in 1985. Even as the band sold millions of albums, it was often beset by drug-fueled internecine struggles.
Rose's colleagues either quit or were fired, and Rose spent the better part of a decade holed up at his Malibu home working on an oft-delayed opus called "Chinese Democracy" with a revolving cast of musicians.
Former Guns N' Roses members, guitarists Slash and Izzy Stradlin, bass player Duff McKagan and drummer Matt Sorum, recently pooled their talents to form a new band and are seeking a vocalist.
Well, Axl showed up for his show here in London on Nov 30th, albeit a bit late. I think I heard that the downtime between the opening act and his show was longer than his show LOL. Apparently, Axl is quite the hockey fan, and being a Saturday night in Canada, there are plenty of games on TV to choose from. The story was that whatever game it was he was watching was going long, and he wanted to see the finish before taking the stage. It was sometime after 11 when he went on, but at least he did.
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SHANGHAI (Reuters) - China's gridlocked drivers will be able to sing their blues away next year after the country's only privately owned car maker rolls out a car equipped with karaoke gear.
China Geely Group said Tuesday its new model, the Geely Beauty Leopard, would retail for $18,000 and come with a phone, karaoke machine, and other bells and whistles, such as navigation gear based on the global positioning system (news - web sites). The Beauty Leopard will enter production in January 2003 and go on sale in April, Geeely said in a statement. The company, based in the eastern Chinese city Ningbo, has been making cars since 1999 and has a line of sedans and hatchbacks that includes China's cheapest car, which sells for $4,700.
By Carol Morello Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, January 8, 2003; Page B01
As the designated driver in her dinner party, Pat Habib was careful to consume no more than one alcoholic drink and follow it up with two sodas.
So she was shocked when a police officer singled her out of the crowd at Jimmy's Old Town Tavern in Herndon and asked her to step outside to prove her sobriety. After she ran through the alphabet without pause, the Fairfax County police officer let her go and explained police had received a complaint about an unruly blond woman matching her description. Then she watched as police tested other women looking nothing like her.
"I could see it if they wanted to prevent you from getting into a car, but they didn't even ask me if I was driving," Habib said.
Habib was among restaurant and bar patrons swept up last month in a joint operation of the Fairfax County police and the Virginia Department of Alcohol Beverage Control. During the holiday period, undercover agents went to 20 bars in Reston and Herndon looking for examples of bartenders "overserving" customers. Police ultimately raided three bars and arrested nine patrons who failed sobriety tests. They were charged with public drunkenness and spent the night in jail.
Police consider the operation a success and said they would consider doing it again. Lt. Tor Bennett, assistant commander of the Reston District station, described it as a "low-key" operation designed to stop drunks before they got behind the wheel.
"We're not talking about someone who was enjoying a cocktail or two and enjoying a nice evening out," Bennett said, noting that the nine men arrested had blood-alcohol levels ranging from 0.14 to 0.22. "They drew attention to themselves by their actions."
But civil libertarians, restaurateurs and many of their customers who were either questioned or arrested have decried the police tactic. They said many people who were drinking responsibly and causing no commotion now have the Class 4 misdemeanor of public intoxication on their record, and many more potential customers were scared away for good out of fear that a drink or two could get them arrested.
"It does smack of a pending police state if law enforcement is going into establishments to monitor behavior," said Lynne Breaux, executive director of the Metropolitan Washington Restaurant Association. "At the same time, we strongly oppose any combination of drinking and driving."
Under Virginia law, a restaurant or bar is a public place, and public intoxication is a low-level misdemeanor punishable by a night in jail and up to a $250 fine.
Kent Willis of the Virginia branch of the American Civil Liberties Union said the law does not specify what level of blood alcohol constitutes public drunkenness. The level for drunken driving is 0.08.
Police said the holiday raids, first reported in the Reston Times, were born of a community policing goal of discouraging crime before it occurs. Bennett said police had been called repeatedly to the three bars in response to fights and disorderly conduct. Undercover agents found no problems in 17 other bars they visited before Christmas, he said. And four of the men arrested were on their way to their cars when police stopped them, he said.
"We're not talking about overzealousness here," Bennett said, adding that uniformed police officers who made the arrests were accompanied by members of the police bicycle patrol clad in nylon pants and polo shirts.
But bartenders and patrons saw it differently.
At Ned DeVine's restaurant in Reston, owner Graham Davies said seven or eight police officers "came bursting into the place."
"If they decided you had too much to drink, you were targeted," Davies said, acknowledging that he believed the three customers who were arrested at his tavern probably had too much to drink.
"The police are within their rights. I can't disagree with what they want to do, which is save lives. But I disagree with the way they did it."
At Champps in Reston, general manager Kevin O'Hare described police as "antagonistic." He said they "pulled" people from their chairs who were making no commotion. "They're always welcome to come in anytime," he said of police. "It's not an issue when they talk to our guests. But when they actually pull people out of their seats, it is an issue. When it's borderline harassment, it's an issue."
One man who was arrested during one of the police raids acknowledged having several drinks during the course of the afternoon, but said he was not driving or acting unruly as he sat at a table with several work colleagues. He had just finished singing "Jingle Bell Rock" on the karaoke machine when an officer asked him to step outside. He failed a breath test and was taken in a van to jail.
"I've lived my life with tremendous respect for the rule of law," said the man, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he is contesting the charges.
Now his respect is tarnished.
"You could be anybody, anywhere, and they can take you out and throw you in jail," he said. ". . .I didn't do anything other than to be in the wrong place at the wrong time."
Katherine K. Hanley (D), chairman of the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors, said the operation was a tool to reduce drunken driving and would be evaluated before it is repeated.
That is a crock of sh**. Police officers wonder why they get no respect. I believe they did something like that here in WI on New Years Eve. I am waiting to the facts, but 1 karaoke bar really got the shaft.
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That is complete and utter bullsh**. I would've started a commotion right there if they pulled that crap with me, and I would've made sure if I'm getting arrested it'll be for assualt not public drunkeness.
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Lee, that is HORRIBLE! I am amazed that the police were allowed to do this. This story reeks of the futuristic movie "Minority Report" where people were arrested for crimes that they hadn't yet commited. *sigh*
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You would think that the police had better things to do these days. What if I go to the bar and get totally trashed and they have no idea my sober ride is in the bar. I smell alot of law suits. Lucky for attorneys. This is totally ridiculous.
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