Sorry, I actually have my first complaint today. I just bought 8673, basically bought it for one song, "Outside"
When i got home and listened to it I was completley annoyed since it is done as a live version, not the version on the staind cd. Nowhere on the label is it marked as a "live" verson or i would not have purchased the disc as there is absolutley nothing else on this disc that i would sing. I am not a KJ and only buy discs that i will sing off of myself, so now i am wondering what will be the outcome of the disc I just wasted my money on that i will never use. I do have about 60 of your discs, and have been happy with all my previous purchases, and i rarely buy anything but soundchoice because of quality. Please tell me if there is anything I can do at this point. I did just buy this today.
Well, I know that the song is labeled "Outside" in the style of Aaron Lewis and Fred Durst. Since Fred Durst isn't a member of Staind, I would think that would have been a small clue it's not the album version. If it was me, I'd try to return it where I got it from stating just what you said above.
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I know what you are saying, but if you play the staind cd on a pc and use the info download that gives you track info and artist and such, it also lists the artist as Aaron Lewis / Fred Durst, not Staind like the rest of the songs on the cd. Now I am not saying the quality of the song SC did is bad, just would have liked it better not as a duet with the harmony in the song allready, easier to sing by yourself that way. I may try to return it to the store i bought it from, but am most likely going to have to swallow the $30 i spent. Who knows, maybe i can learn something else off it, or sell it to a kj or something. I would definately like to be informed if SC decides to do the version off the staind cd of the same song, as it would be great to have that version without having to get it through some crappy label. Thanks for your input though grateful =)
Well, I have to agree here. I as well bought this disc for this song. I was really looking forward to it, its a wicked tune. I am tremendously disappointed that it is in fact the live version. For the life of me I do not understand why Karaoke companies produce "live" versions. They are pretentious and goofy with all the crowd noise and ad libs. This one is perticularily goofy. I think Fred Durst is an idiot and seeing his parts on this track prove more so. I think SC should have rethought this and did a studio version. C'mon man, how many people are going to get up on stage and mutter Durst's parts? "Hey I'm feeling those lighters out there" I think a disservice was done to us consumers as it was not listed as "live". I foolishly ass/u/med when I bought it that because it did not say "live" it was a studio version. Who is to say Fred and Aaron didn't collaborate in the studio? Sound Choice this one is defintely your bad. Applause should be reserved for the real crowd, not the imagined one. PO'd KJ.
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well, i guess they made it for people like me. I wanted the live version and I think it is better than the studio version. and i do say the fred durst part. dont ya'll have too much fun singing
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I as well know a lot of people who actually prefer the "live" version to the studio version of the song. As for myself, I would have loved to have seen SC put the album version of OUTSIDE on a PowerPick as a "bonus track". I prefer the album version as well BUT I still do the "live" version of the song...having it on karaoke is better than not having it on karaoke.
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Sorry you're disappointed, I wish we could help. I would agree with Dan, that you might go for the store credit.
If I understand you correctly, you purchased a disc this week that Sound Choice released in April full of "current" songs from that timeframe - February, March and April. But you expected that a song that is NOW on the charts - June, July and August - is not on that disc? Aside from the fact that it is clearly identified as being performed by Aaron Lewis and Fred Durst, as opposed to Staind?
The two discs that have that version on them were released in March and April. We haven't heard any compliants in the past 4/5 months. Back in January and February when we produced that song, we didn't see a need to identify the song as "live" since it was the only version released as a single at that time, and it was certainly the only version that was being played to death on the radio and MTV. You couldn't watch MTV or listen to the radio for an hour without hearing that song last winter and spring - it was omnipresent. In fact, to this day, you still have a good chance of seeing the 'live' version video on MTV.
It went to Number 1 on the Billboard Mainstream Rock chart, and Number 2 on the Billboard Modern Rock charts. As well as getting well into the Top 100 on the Billboard Pop chart.
"Outside" by Aaron Lewis and Fred Durst from the Family Values Tour: - #1/ Mainstream Rock - #2 / Modern Rock - #56 / Hot 100
"Outside" by Staind from the Bring The Cycle CD: - #11 / Mainstream Rock - #17 / Modern Rock - No Chart position on Hot 100
Sorry, but the choice to do the 'live' version wasn't a mistake - it was the obvious thing to do. The album version hasn't done too shabby, but it's nowhere near the popularity of the acoustic, live version.
BTW: MTV is releasing a second series of karaoke discs in the fall. One of them will include the song "Outside"….. Yup, you guessed it! It will be the 'live' version by Aaron Lewis and Fred Durst.
Personally, I enjoy the "live" karaoke songs. I love the crowd on "One Way Out" on SC's Arena Rock... it kind of brings back concert memories. And, I see SC is releasing Billy Idol's live Mony Mony which is way more exciting than the studio version.
I would definately welcome more live versions into karaoke (for songs that deserve it).
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I agree with all your points BC except 1. A live track should be desicnated as such. Your reasoning behind this is a little wonky in my opinion. Outside is an exception to the norm for live recordings. Not many reach the stratosphere like it did. Its a killer track and I hedge a hefty bet that if it was released first as the studio version, it would have topped the charts just like the live version. Its a killer song, that's why the live version sold so well. When I bought the disc I truly assumed and wrongly so, that it wasn't "live". It was simply a male duet. Had I known I would have either waited for you top produce the studio version or I would have bought another manufacturers. Just for the sake of asking, will the studio version be produced? Not trying to create an "Awake" situation here, just want to know where to spend my money.
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Hey man, thanks for siding w/me on this one =) I think the main reason i was dissappointed in it not being labeled as live, is because you have labeled so many others as live. B/C, don't get me wrong, i still think your group did an excellent job on the version they did, it was just not what i expected. Music wise, I have over 700 cd's, and tend to listen to these, not the radio, and since i don't get mtv2, i don't tend to watch mtv, because mtv has become nothing but a bunch of stupid shows, not music videos like it should be. Sometimes i hear someting new on the radio, but most of the time i hear songs on karaoke, and say, hey, that may be a cool cd. Or i just buy new stuff by artists I allready like. I really had not heard that song (outside) until i bought staind's second alblum. Then I thought that song kicked azz, and decided to see if you had done it. Like I said, since the track appears to be done by Aaron Lewis and Fred Durst when i played the cd on the computer, I thought nothing of the version not saying it was by staind, since the staind cd didn't say it either. I agree with Alice Coops alter ego, that if you do the studio version i would be happy to have it and would like to have it by sc, not some crappy half azz karaoke company. So, like Alice, should i wait, or get the studio version somewhere else? Guess i did not realize when that song came out, or the disc, as I have not bought much recently as that is the way it goes when u r broke. Anyway, thanks.