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As for disc from defunct companies as long as you have the disc I see no problems. Some of the existing manus are picking up the trademarks for the manus that have folded up. as they pick them up each will be able to audit for those disc as well.
As you indicated earlier the KIAA may be a viable solution to auditing all of the disc in a system.
This is what I would actually like to see happen.
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No all you have to do is be and remain legitimately 1:1, if you are filed against request and supply your system immeadiately for an audit. Of request permission to shift for computer use and an audit before you are filed against.
No problem!
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Yeah, yeah, yeah...it's against every fiber of my being, but I'll do it... I feel like I caved.
I like my CD+G's because if my new JB 199 ever crashes, I can still run my show from my old books and discs. Legally, If the copies become corrupted, destroyed, deleted, or they just disappear, I can use my trusty discs again and never miss a single gig. That's an advantage that the downloaded stuff just doesn't have.
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A QUOTE from: Kurt J. Slep CEO, Sound Choice... So as not to take this comment "out of context", I have copied the entire paragraph here.
"We do not have the rights from the Music Publishers (who represent the song writers) to grant the transfer of our music from the CDG to a hard drive, that is why we have not licensed "hard drives" per se. HOWEVER, we are willing to not take action (although, nor indemnify) a KJ who chooses to do so for reasons of ease of operation PROVIDED THAT HE HAS A LEGALLY PURCHASED DISC FOR EACH AND EVERY SONG ON EACH AND EVERY HARD DRIVE (or CAVS type ) SYSTEM. That is what we (and KIAA) are referring to as 1:1"
This part of Mr. Slep's quote bares repeating:
"We do not have the rights from the Music Publishers (who represent the song writers) to grant the transfer of our music from the CDG to a hard drive"
This at least implies that we (honest KJs) can't purchase the right to shift media from CD+G to hard drive, from any Karaoke Producer or the KIAA even if we wanted to, because they don't have the rights to grant the transfer, or collect any monies from such a transfer.
Mr. Slep goes on to say:
"HOWEVER, we are willing to not take action (although, nor indemnify) a KJ who chooses to do so for reasons of ease of operation PROVIDED THAT HE HAS A LEGALLY PURCHASED DISC FOR EACH AND EVERY SONG ON EACH AND EVERY HARD DRIVE (or CAVS type ) SYSTEM. That is what we (and KIAA) are referring to as 1:1"
This seems to say that he accepts "1 to 1" as the standard of innocence of wrong-doing. Oh, and just a fact here...It doesn't matter HOW one acquires the (factory original) CD+G disc, be it purchased, won in a crap game, or found on the side of the road, as long as you possess it, it's yours.
OK... now what "right" does anyone (or any corporate entity) have to force another person to submit to an audit?
The answer is, absolutely NONE. As much as they'd like to believe it, they are not the IRS!
They can sue, BUT they'd better be able to PROVE wrong-doing and/or harm...and with the above quotes from Mr. Slep, that would be tough.
If they can not prove wrong-doing or harm, they must be prepared to defend themselves against counter suites for Liable, Defamation, and Harassment to list just a few possibilities.
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quote:Originally posted by DJ-Mace: I may have changed my mind... again!
A QUOTE from: Kurt J. Slep CEO, Sound Choice... So as not to take this comment "out of context", I have copied the entire paragraph here.
"We do not have the rights from the Music Publishers (who represent the song writers) to grant the transfer of our music from the CDG to a hard drive, that is why we have not licensed "hard drives" per se. HOWEVER, we are willing to not take action (although, nor indemnify) a KJ who chooses to do so for reasons of ease of operation PROVIDED THAT HE HAS A LEGALLY PURCHASED DISC FOR EACH AND EVERY SONG ON EACH AND EVERY HARD DRIVE (or CAVS type ) SYSTEM. That is what we (and KIAA) are referring to as 1:1"
This part of Mr. Slep's quote bares repeating:
"We do not have the rights from the Music Publishers (who represent the song writers) to grant the transfer of our music from the CDG to a hard drive"
This at least implies that we (honest KJs) can't purchase the right to shift media from CD+G to hard drive, from any Karaoke Producer or the KIAA even if we wanted to, because they don't have the rights to grant the transfer, or collect any monies from such a transfer.
Mr. Slep goes on to say:
"HOWEVER, we are willing to not take action (although, nor indemnify) a KJ who chooses to do so for reasons of ease of operation PROVIDED THAT HE HAS A LEGALLY PURCHASED DISC FOR EACH AND EVERY SONG ON EACH AND EVERY HARD DRIVE (or CAVS type ) SYSTEM. That is what we (and KIAA) are referring to as 1:1"
This seems to say that he accepts "1 to 1" as the standard of innocence of wrong-doing. Oh, and just a fact here...It doesn't matter HOW one acquires the (factory original) CD+G disc, be it purchased, won in a crap game, or found on the side of the road, as long as you possess it, it's yours.
OK... now what "right" does anyone (or any corporate entity) have to force another person to submit to an audit?
The answer is, absolutely NONE. As much as they'd like to believe it, they are not the IRS!
They can sue, BUT they'd better be able to PROVE wrong-doing and/or harm...and with the above quotes from Mr. Slep, that would be tough.
If they can not prove wrong-doing or harm, they must be prepared to defend themselves against counter suites for Liable, Defamation, and Harassment to list just a few possibilities.
They say they won't sue you if you can prove 1:1. If you don't go through the audit then they can sue you all they want and that is where the ALL RIGHTS RESERVED comes in. You initially only paid for the right to play it off of the original medium. Without the audit they aren't going to look the other way.
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Only if they have the rights to begin with...which Mr. Slep admits to NOT having...Those rights remain with the Music Publishers of which he is not. These were not my words but his, so I guess you'll have to take it up with him.
"ALL RIGHTS RESERVED" are only the ones that they paid for, and apparently the right to re-sell copyrighted works are not among them. This is why they haven't gone after the real 1 to 1 KJs and only gone after the PIRATE companies selling copies and loaded hard drives. It's also why they haven't used "copyright infringement" and they have so far only used the "trademark infringement" angle. It's because they don't have the right to offer for sale, the shift from CD+G to Hard Drive.
(not counting the KJs that were intimidated into submitting to audit, or real Pirates who were NOT 1 to 1 compliant.)
Legally, anyone can sue anyone for any reason... for instance: You can sue me for Defamation, the only thing is, you'd need to prove it in court. It doesn't matter if you have evidence, you can still sue... BUT if you lose, well THAT is another story that can really cause some problems!
I am 100 percent 1 to 1 compliant and if they care to, they may inspect my inventory under these conditions which appear on my website as follows...
"I state here and now, for your information and legally for the record...
I presently have in my posession, and have always had, a "Factory Original" CD+G disc for each and every song in my books.
1. You may inspect my collection, at a time and place of MY convenience.
2. This inspection will be completely at YOUR expense.
3. I will not sign ANY of your papers, BUT upon completion of said inspection, you will sign a document which declares my 100% compliance with "1 to 1" digital media transfer and storage, completely exonerating Me, My Company, and any Venues that choose to engage our services.
4. This inspection SHALL occur previous to ANY legal actions so as to prevent undue burden on BOTH parties."
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I am perfectly willing to prove my 1 to 1 compliance...just not under they're rigid and unfair format. I will show my 1 to 1 compliance, but I will not pay for a media shift that Mr. Slep admits to having no right to.
Posts: 103 | From: Boonton, NJ | Registered: Apr 2011
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2. Under discovery in a federal lawsuit (which will cost you many times over)
3. just continue to operate and hope that you stay under the radar.
Any of the three works for me.
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Stay under the radar? DUDE do you see where I'm posting this stuff? How the heck do you expect me to stay under the radar posting here for God Sakes! I'm looking for Mr. Slep and his legal team, to come out and finally state for all to see legally, publicly and on their own website that at least half of what they want isn't even legal! Am I calling them out? Well, yes I guess that I am. I'm saying that I believe that I can prove that they do not have the rights to force us do the things that they say that they want us to do. I'm saying that he admits that he has NO RIGHT to make us pay to shift media. I am saying that he is rolling the dice by threatening the people that supported him and in doing so he's playing a very dangerous game. I'm saying that he is only selling an audit, which will only prove that 1 to 1ers are indeed 1 to 1ers and are innocent whether or not they submit to the extortion.
I'm saying that Mr. Slep and the KIAA have too many times stated on their own and other websites, and in their own papers, that 1 to 1 is the standard that they accept as innocent of wrong-doing.
I'm saying that I'm tired of whipped company lackeys repeating the same tired lines, even when confronted with Mr. Slep's own words...
Tell them Mr. Slep... tell them that you want to audit EVERY KJ even if they run CD+G ONLY, or promise here and now to never do it...here, on THIS website! You won't will you, because that's all part of the plan to make more money off the people that already bought your products.
It's like a bad duck hunter...throw enough lead in the air and you might kill a duck...but you might also might kill a swan, or a sparrow. Hurt the innocent to replace money stolen by thieves...That's Piracy too! It's Robin Hood only backwards...
We can't help that Mr. Slep lost money to thieving Pirates, but as I've been told by people on these boards, "I guess it's the cost of doing business". But, why do the people that supported him, now have to pay him again and again and again for a digital shift which he knows that he has no right to sell, and he even admits to it? ...and one must ask why some are blindly supporting it...
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YOU will pay me $199.00 dollars now and a smaller payment every year...forever, or you'll be sorry...I'll take you to court...I'll make you spend all of your money...I'll bankrupt you...even if you are innocent...pay me or else.
That IS extortion. That IS a protection racket.
Call me a liar.
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I wonder if it isn't time for a class action suit of our own...Hummmm an interesting thought isn't it? Do you think I'd have a problem finding people to sign on? I don't.
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I guess it comes down to understanding the copyright and more importantly the Trademark laws.
It seems you simply can't get your head around the fact that "making a copy and displaying it" is a violation of the law. It doesn't matter if you own every origional CDG that Sound Choice ever produced, if you make a copy of it and use it then you have violated the law and can be sued. He has every right to "sell" the ability to make a copy of his trademark, he also has every right to sue someone who has made a copy of it without his specific permission.
If you don't like the water don't get in the pond.
There is a 100% sure method to do karaoke shows without any risk of being sued by sound choice (without haveing permission granted to copy the tracks to a computer hard disc) Use the CDGs!
Why do you think the people that they are suing are settling these case instead of moving forward into court?
It could be that the ones who have hired attorneys have been advised that there is a less than 50/50 chance of winning and the cost in attorneys fees alone are going to be far more than a settlement, win, lose or draw.
It isn't a matter of blindly supporting it! It is a matter of not being stupid enough not to see what it is. The laws are pretty plain reading and fairly easy for most to understand and comprehend. Every case that SC has filed has the laws that are being violated clearly stated in every case. It is real easy to find these laws and read them for yourself.
Considering that at least 80% of the KJs out here today are pirates (from my own estimates from personal experience) many of them not even knowing what a CDG is. It is pretty clear (at least to me) that there is going to be a lot more against the actions of Sound Choice than there will be for it. At that fact is supported in just about every online discussion on this subject. For every one person who applauds the actions taken against pirates by Sound Choice, there are 4 people who scream that Sound Choice is bullying the poor innocent KJs. The only question would be who are the innocent KJs?
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Your quote... "1. Voluntary (which you now pay for)"
Exactly how is an audit that you are doing under the threat of suit in federal court even remotely voluntary?
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Then what is the problem with the KIAA and Mr. Slep simply coming out and saying that the money paid is for your right to display their logo, copied to your hard drive?
Why all of the convoluted crud?
So many people have the Idea that they are paying for the media shift, and the KIAA isn't saying that they aren't.
Too many times, they have stated that 1 to 1 is the standard of innocence, but they want you to pay for that proof by submitting to their audit.
Which is it? Are we paying for the audit? Are we paying for the right to shift media? Are we paying for the right to display their logo? You and I know that it can't be all of the above.
If we are paying for the audit, then we are paying for them to be sure that we are 1 to 1.
To me that means that because we've paid them $199.00 dollars and promise to pay an as yet undisclosed amount every year thereafter, they agree not to sue me, even though the KJ in the bar next door is just as "1 to 1" as I am, because he didn't pay-up he'll be sued?
I want them to be clear and honest. No more hiding their intent.
If you don't like the water, You can get out...but I'm going to try to change the water...and if you like the water, I hope you'll like it better when I'm done!
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It's really easy to copy a CD+G, so you gotta know where I'm going with this right?
It's a slippery slope...we agree to audits for some of us, it's only a matter of time before the "CD+G only" KJs are threatened with exactly the same treatment. Why? Because they might have a copied disc of course!
Where does it end?
Someone copies the entire Jem Series... What, do you think it won't happen? We both know that it will.
Now everyone must submit to audits, under the threat of a federal suit?
Really, is this what your fighting for?
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When every KJ is forced to submit to audit... the Media Shifter KJ, the MP3 digital KJ, and even the CD+G only KJ, What happens then?...
Who is lining their pockets with the money from all of these audits? Yup you guessed it, We are being fleeced to pay for some of what the pirates stole.
Is the justice you are cheerleading for?
I said it before, and I'll say it again... Go after the Pirates ONLY and make them pay.
There is a way to shut me up, and suing me won't do it, that will only make my voice unbelievably louder!
Be fair. If you want an inspection of my inventory, do it for free.
Be fair. If you want me to pay you, for advertising your products on my screen, even though it's a CD+G's copy on my hard drive, then SAY that this is what I'm paying for. Tell me that I am paying to have your LOGO appear on my screen.
You have my real e-mail and you know my website... I'm easy to find and I'm not hiding.
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For three years they were doing audits for free, where were you then?
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What happens when all the pirates are either legit, gone or unable to pick up shows..... Sound Choice will once again start producing new music.
For now there is no point in it, as with PHM, Sunfly, Zoom and Chartbuster every new disc they release can be found on a P2P site before the disc can get to my door by mail Fedex or UPS.
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I do have to admit that I know of one KJ who is releasing new karaoke songs onto P2P sites, but his are hacked up by screwing with the lyrics or adding some really crazy graphics into the middle of the songs. But he has to keep changing his name every couple of weeks..... :>)
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I'll bet...and don't let me find him, or poor Kurt will have one less to worry about! Trust me, I hate them as much or more that you do.
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So, we're supposed to pay for this perfect karaoke world by participating in a convoluted set of rules and half-truths, and by signing our own civil rights away? Yes, I've read the entire KIAA audit request... put nicely, bunk shirt!
How about NO.
I am in the process of reading the entire list of case files, nicely provided by the KIAA on their website. Do you know what is incredibly interesting about this information so far? I'll give you a hint... it's not what's there, but what is not there! There is NOTHING in any of the case papers even mentioning an "audit" or "audit process". The weirdest thing is, what was written in those documents by the Sound Choice team... they "tolerate" media shifting as long as it is strictly 1 to 1...it's funny how they would say something like that, and yet conveniently forget to even mention an audit process huh? Must have been an oversight LOL.
I'm also reading about trademark law... lots of cool stuff there too!
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First off the guy who is putting corupt files on P2P sites is doing a lot more to fight piracy than you are.
Second how do you think 1:1 files are "strictly enforced"?
In case you can't figure it out it is done by an audit.
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With respect to the fears that this could extend to disc-only hosts, under the position that Sound Choice is taking anyone running off a computer is violating their trademark on its face without a license or other permission to run their songs on the computer. For disc-only hosts it would be very hard for Sound Choice to make the same type of argument unless they saw that the discs used were clearly burns.
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1. No one said strictly "enforced"... The word is not in the papers, and I didn't use it either. They can investigate, but they have no right or power to enforce at all.
2. I didn't know that his reason for "releasing new karaoke songs onto P2P sites" was sabotage, I thought that HE was a pirate also. I fight piracy on a one to one basis by education of the venue operators, and have done so many times. (I've also used slightly more physical means also, but felt badly afterward)
I know that it's easier to stand back and cheer the KIAA's efforts, but their methodology is wrong and I will not support it. I am a fan of fairness and true justice. I do not believe that you should use strong-arm tactics on everyone to catch a few real pirates, it's just not right, and the end doesn't justify the means. You don't seem to understand my position... My dog has as much authority to audit your collection as the KIAA or Sound Choice does. The courts have the authority, but the KIAA does not. If your neighbor finds his Sunday paper missing, does he have the right to accuse you and check your breakfast table for it? If your boss sees that a ream of copy-paper is missing, does he have the right to search your home? The answer is NO, and they certainly wouldn't have the right to CHARGE you $$$ for their search.
The courts don't accept their (the KIAA or Sound Choice, Sleptone, etc) word that your system is 1 to 1, they only care that the case was dropped. It seems that the audit method has been carefully "omitted" in any of the court documents that I have read so far. No mention of audits at all in fact, only whether the defendant was 1 to 1 or not. I would prefer that the court designate the means and personage to decide my 1 to 1 status. Trust me, if I am sued and found to be 1 to 1 compliant, the bill for that audit will not be mine to pay, it will belong to whomever implied that I was not 1 to 1. No Karaoke Producer has the right to see what I have in my collection, and especially those things that are not their products. They have no business knowing who's products I have purchased, or how many of them I have.
To: Mark Katzoff
I hate to say it but it's just as hard to judge a digital copy on disc as it is in a hard drive. Make no mistake, it's only a matter of time before the CD+G crowd are harassed for audits too, the writing is already on the wall.
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Case 5:10-cv-00071-RS-MD (Slep-Tone Entertainment v Kara-O-King)
Page 15. section 49.through 50.
You will notice that especially in section 50, nowhere is an "audit" mentioned as being part of Slep-Tone's Media Shifting Policy...only what is required for a digital collection to be classified as 1 to 1 compliant.
I chose this one because it was a slightly better pdf copy, but it says substantially the same thing as the others, you can check them all if you wish.
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There are voluntary audits before a case goes into court, it is voluntary. After a case is filed it is called discovery, this is part of the rules of court. You don't have to comply with either one but the results will be a default judgement in favor of the plaintiff. The word "Discovery" replaces the word "audit" once it goes to court.
Sound Choice isn't strong arming anyone to do anything, they are not after those who are disc based, they aren't even after those whoi have shifted media on a 1:1 basis. They are after those who are running pirate systems if you aren't a pirate you don.t have a thing to worry about. If you are mistakenly filed against and can show that you are 1:1 of disc based Sound Choice works with you (if you bother to work with them) and clears the situation up with NO COST to you. It is pretty simple really.
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If it's not strong-arming or coercive than I'm a pink elephant! Their stuff ( especially the KIAA promotional material ) is written better than Joseph Goebbels himself could have done! Anyone reading it would be lead to believe that if you didn't submit to their audit, and of course pay $199.00 for the privilege, you'd be sued by this Mega-Corporation...little did I know how non-mega it really was. The impression they leave you with is that "1 to 1" or not, you'll regret the day you even heard of karaoke.
It's nice to be able to break through the junk and finally get real.
I knew that It couldn't be that bad for REAL "1 to 1ers" but their rhetoric made me so angry that my moral outrage got the best of me...it happens with me sometimes, could you tell?
What would I recommend to the general KJ just getting by, do it...get the audit. Are you shocked? Why not, it might save them time and trouble in the long run.
Now for me, I love a good fight. I would have done it just to prove a point.
Do I support the KIAA? Nah, they need to back off the heavy stuff a bit and remember the attitude that the original KAPA had, I was 100% behind that!
OK, lets find us some pirates and Gang-Audit them! LOL. They used to hang pirates didn't they?
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I really wish I knew what you were talking about, even better I wish you knew what you were talking about.
Please copy and paste from whatever site you are getting the basis for these rediculous statements you are making. I have read the entire KIAA site you are supposedly getting this information from and I simply can't find anything that even comes close.
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I have asked 3 or 4 times, how and who do I contact to get information on media shifting. Any help will be appricated. I do not have a web cam and use my neighbors internet, so it would be difficult to do so on line.
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1 - Judas Priest - Breaking The Law 2 - Jane's Addiction - Been Caught Stealing 3 - Stone Temple Pilots - Creep (I like to steal) 4 - Ramones - Howling At The Moon (I wanna steal from the rich and give to the poor) 5 - Sublime - April 21, 1992
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There will be a meeting with the big three at Big Mama's Studio (chartbuster) December 4 and 5 and you will be able to have audits done in person at that time and location.
As for contact information
DGrimes@bigmama.tv for Chartbuster
sboone@soundchoice.com for Sound Choice
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Thunder, Thanks for the info. I am in Arizona, is their any place in this area to go in person?
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Is there any way to send photo's of all disc along with a copy of the song book data base? I would be able to photo the disc and send it along with a copy of data base form the file. I could send hard copies, or e mail.
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Theyt are not going to go with photos of your disc, but they will do skype. Computer cameras are pretty cheap right now skype is easy to setup and it is trhe simplest method to use.
Also drop a line to Sound Choice and Chartbuster and find out if either one is going to be in your area anytime soon, either one can do the audit for the other as well.
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Thunder, Thanks I will try to get hold of Sound Choice and Chartbuster to see if they will be in the area. As far as skype, I am using my neighbors internet line, that is not very good at times. Thanks
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1st off Thunder, just so you know a Biker can look good in pink too, that "look funny in pink" comment was just plain hurtful...sniff* sniff* LOL
Say what you will, There are too many comments, statements, and veiled threats in these boards and the karaoke website's, trying to make KJs believe that the audits are not only legally necessary, but mandatory, or they'll be sued. It took a long time to get anyone to admit that DISCOVERY allows one to prove 1 to 1 compliance AND will prove that "someone" hadn't done their legal homework; and it will also do it all for free!
I don't like people that use the courts to weed-out a few Pirates by suing everyone in sight, and dropping those that pass 1 to 1 in discovery. I'd rather see them use "due diligence" and get it right the first time without wasting the taxpayers money, the courts time and ours too. I also don't believe that we should stand for being treated as if we are guilty until proven innocent. I am 1 to 1, and I will prove it to anyone that matters, like the venue operators / owners, or the courts. If someone wants to contact me, and will come to one of my gigs, and If they ask really nicely, I would bring all of my discs for them to look at...but PAY them to do it? not likely!
I have a great reputation, a good book, and I have every single factory original disc for each and every song in it. I've been doing this since the early 90's and have bought a sh*tload of discs that I don't even have in my books! (yes, they suck BUT I do have them) I hate Pirates as much, or more that you do, and I have done things to help stop them. I believe that "some people" are going about this fight in the wrong way and it will backfire on them when the courts get tired of being used, instead of the karaoke companies doing the proper investigations in the first place.
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