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KJjj
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Why do people think "Go rest high on that mountain" is a song everyone must hear just when the rooms at a fever pitch?
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Or how's about

"THE FIRST TIME EVER I SAW YOUR FACE"
"THE ROSE"
"DON"T TAKE THE GIRL"
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Bill Schwentner
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I agree that "Go Rest" is the world's biggest downer, and it's a LOOOONG one. I thought my show was the only one that suffered through this song. The whole audience just comes to a screeching halt!!
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"The Rose" is famous for that... I usually shudder when I see that song come up... there is just no good time in a night for it to be sung....
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Actually, Cliff, there IS a good time for "The Rose" to be sung...

You'd have to go to shows in my area to hear this guy Dan (whom we call "Psycho D"), who puts in for this or "You Light Up My Life" occasionally. He's far from a great singer, but what makes his "interpretations" so good is that he strays from the song and just improvises. He'll make up raunchy lyrics about whatever's on his mind, from being screwed over by a girl to his rotten job making pizzas. It's funny as hell--Dan is truly one of a kind, and more importantly, those overblown songs get the treatment they deserve!

Best,

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Bill Schwentner
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At least "Rose" and others are about LIVE people. "Go Rest" is about DEAD ones!! Try to follow THAT one with "wooly Bully"!!
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Thankfully, in the nine years I've been going to karaoke, I've never heard anyone do "Go Rest..."
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Well, my biggest momentum killer was when I sang "All things bright and beautiful" (No applause on this one...)
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Take em out of your books if you don't like them being sung. Simple.

Dan


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Sometimes (when someone can REALLY sing the song)these are great, but most of the time, the show is at it's peak, everyone's jamming and chatting and the club is jumping, someone has to break in with "American Trilogy" or some other such mellow, spiritual or an I'm-gonna-slit-my-wrists-if you-don't-come-back song right after "Baby Got Back" and before "War Pigs" -You just can't work them in effectively, even if you juggle requests.

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LOL Bill & Sarah!

I'm sorry, but....NO FRIGGIN' FUNERAL DURGES AT MY SHOW. This is a bar, not a church, and definitely not Forest Lawn. In my opinion, songs like this are just not appropriate for the atmosphere.

Gotta go with Dan....take it OUT if you don't like it. "Go Rest" is outta my book.....I also pulled "Danny Boy" for the same reason.

(and I'm mostly Irish, BTW....like you guys haven't figured THAT out....LOL)

"Danny Boy" is SUCH an UNBELIEVEABLE downer. Not only that, but it's really, REALLY long.

For me, whether something stays in the book or goes depends a great deal on the length, but also on it's flexibility where individual interpretation is concerned.

Granted, The Rose can be a drag, but it's not that long, at least, and it means different things to different people.....not all of them necessarily sad.

Tell ya one that's halfway out the friggin' door, though....."It Was A Very Good Year".....JEEZ.....might as well pass out some Thorazine and cue up the ending of Old Yeller....

[This message has been edited by Leigh Balton (edited September 26, 2000).]


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In my observation, there's two kinds of singers, between which there's little to no overlap:


  • Those who CAN sing "The Rose"
  • Those who DO sing "The Rose"

The same goes for "The Greatest Love of All". And that one will make me dive for the rest room no matter how well it's sung.


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Hear here.
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I have a regular who happens to sing "Go Rest High" as good or better than Vince does. It never fails to get the loudest ovation of the night. I think if you have an opinion of a song, you should either take it out of your book, or think for a second that no matter how bad you hate it, it might be someone at your shows favorite song.

Just because you think it's a momentum killer doesn't make it so.

Just my opinion,
GaryC


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You're right, Gary, SOMETIMES that so-called momentum killer becomes the highlight, show-stopping, standing ovation, knock 'em dead, most awesome performance of the show-that's why I don't remove them from the books. It's just the other 90% of the time that someone who has no business singing in the first place, wailing in the mic like a drunk howler monkey while everyone in the room rolls their eyes and checks their watches. That's karaoke and this is the forum to let it all out without being fired or losing customers.

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Bill Schwentner
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Actually, "Go Rest" isn't in my book...this customer (a lady) brought in her own and for three weeks in a row dedicated it to her mother who passed away a year ago. Now, no matter HOW well she sang this song (and she did pretty well), there was NO way it wasn't going to ge a downer. The last time she sang it was in the NSC qualifier and she couldn't understand why she didn't place!!
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gary - Just because a KJ decides to take something out of the book, doesn't necessarily mean they didn't think about it, or blindly fell victim to their "personal feelings" about the song. I'd give KJs credit for a little more intelligence than that.

On the contrary, I believe KJs think about the decision very carefully....after all.....what KJ enjoys lowering their song count?

For me, the decision to omit or is influenced strictly by the entertainment value of the song as determined by the crowd and the atmosphere of the club. If a song regularly inspires complaints, puts people in a coma, or makes them walk out....it's out of the book.....plain and simple.

It's great that "Go Rest" works for you folks out in the Bible Belt, but in a SoCal club full of hip young people and alternative rock musicians.....it just doesn't fly.........like, EVER......doesn't matter if it was Vince Gill himself. Most of the crowd at Bombay probably wouldn't recognize him, anyway.

Frankly, if "Go Rest" was somebody's favorite song to sing, I'd probably suggest the country bar across town.....they'd get a better response.

Bottom line....every club is different, and KJs should go with what works for their particular situation.

Hell, if I made omission decisions based on my "personal feelings" about a song, PBTDBL would have been out the door a LONG time ago.....LOL....

[This message has been edited by Leigh Balton (edited September 27, 2000).]


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What the AOL do you people have so much against "Go Rest High..."! It is a song no worse than many really crappy tunes we hear today like "My Own Prison" or "Loser" or whatever. At least, you don't hear it too often (In fact I heard it only twice in the last 3 years...)
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Kind of a side thread here: I find that, even songs like the "downer" ones discussed here (Rose, Greatest Love of All, Go Rest... etc) are better received by my more "popular" singers. In other words, if a stranger sang "The Rose" at one of my shows, they MAY get lukewarm applause at best. But if, for instance, one of my top singers, like Janet (you Harry Karaoke lurkers out there know who I'm talking about) sang this song, she'd bring the house down, standing ovation and all. Why? She's a great singer, and everyone loves her.

Do you think this would apply to your "popular" regulars as well?


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"Bottom line, every club is different, KJ's should go with what works for their particular situation."
Hmmmm....isn't that what I've been saying all along?
GaryC

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garyc

man you ain't gonna win

she is always right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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I've Never Heard The Song In Question.
Personally, I'm Not A Big Country Music
Fan (Especially At Karaoke), But I'd Rather Hear A Night Of "Cowboy Downers" Than "CREED Wannabe's"!! "The VeRRRRRRdict Is In"

LEIGH:
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I agree with Don. I can sing almost anything, good or bad, at the shows I'm a regular at, and get good response. I go to a new show, and sing a country song to a mostly hip hop crowd, I get next to no response, no matter how well I do. That was a lesson learned years ago, and I try to guage the crowd before I sing at new shows.

However, you get some karaoke virgin there, and all they want to sing is Go Rest, or The Rose, and get ignored, it leaves a bad taste in their mouth for what karaoke is all about.

Let me expand on the thread for a minute. You guys that hate these so called momentum killers. What do you do about it? It's not a shock to you guys what songs are coming up. You have a string of dance songs going on, and the crowd is on the floor. You know that 3 songs from now, that regular who always does The Rose is up. Do you grumble to yourself that the party is about to be over, or do you suck up the courage to skip that regular, maybe move them down a few when the pace might be slower. Or God forbid, go talk to them and see if you can talk them into changing the song. I'd love to hear what some of you guys actually do about it.

Dan


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Bill Schwentner
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As far as my show goes, anybody can sing anything they want...that's what karaoke is about. I don't have to like it, the audience doesn't really have to like it. That's why singers become regulars....they sing what they want and they never get skipped!!

Country music is becoming increasingly more mainstream, by the way. Our shows mix just about every genre you can think of. People seem to applaud for the singer, not the song. But "Go Rest..."? Sheesh!!


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I've got to add one to my personal list: "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face". It was sung at a local venue last night, four audience members were taken away in ambulances- as far as I know two of them have slipped out of the coma and are currently undergoing psychiatric evaluation, but the other two aren't so lucky, they are only showing minimal brain activity.

[This message has been edited by l'opera voce (edited September 29, 2000).]


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True!

But it IS a beautiful song in it's correct context.


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l'opera voce
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Weddings, sure. Funerals, maybe.

Karaoke bar where everybody else is singing rock, hip-hop, or pop?

You ever heard the sound of a needle scratching all the way across an old vinyl record?


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Tim:

It looks like that I did the right thing by staying home last night to watch the ball game.


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l'opera voce
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Not really, but that one song certainly didn't fit with the rest of the night.
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l'opera - LMAO

Bill - Well-said, as usual.

gary - yes, you have said that....but (this time) you also said "think for a second that no matter how bad you hate it", which implies that a KJ who takes things out of their book is acting without thinking....which is what prompted my response.

You throw out thinly-veiled passive-aggressive insults, then refuse to take responsibility for them when somebody notices.....that's one of the reasons why you and I scrap a lot.

HotShot - Granted, I do like to stir up stuff, but I have never neglected to acknowledge when I was wrong, or failed to compliment a good point that someone has made in a debate, so put a sock in it, K?

PHASEIV (like the name BTW...rock on) - I work in the Santa Barbara/Ventura area of CA.

As I prefer not to clutter up forums with detailed self-promotion, you can get more information on the shows by clicking Leigh's Home Page

If you have any questions, or would like a copy of the current songlist file, feel free to email at MicMaster1@aol.com.

Best, - L .

[This message has been edited by Leigh Balton (edited September 30, 2000).]


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Leigh,
I'm sorry you took my post the wrong way. I intended no insult and am sorry if it came across that way.
Hell, I thought I was agreeing with you. If a song bothers you that much, take it out of your book. I was intending the post to the others that originated the topic. Think about it before you do it.
I realize we have had our differences in the past and I have intentionally "laid low" because I didn't want to draw the ire.
Anyway, the only thing I've ever tried to say is there are always different opinions posted on this board. That's all they are...opinions. You've heard the saying. It doesn't mean anyone is right or wrong. I'm sure you have a very succesful show doing it the way you do it. So do I, the way I do it. It works well here in the Bible Belt. By the way, we consider that a compliment.
Oh well, no offense intended and I apologize if you feel that way.
GaryC

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I believe this topic was started by a "singer". This is the SINGERS FORUM. Singers can't take out songs from books. While I see no reason to act as if you are not a KJ when on this forum, acting as if it's only for KJs defeats the purpose.
I want to hear what the singers have to say. Business aspects should not be here. It looks to me if singers have been edged out.

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I love the song ANGEL by Sara Mcglauglin..however you spell it, but dang, when you're drunk and happy, this song just brings you straight down!
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Larri,
Then why is the singers name KJjj? Perhaps he posted it under the wrong heading. Besides, I'm a singer, too.
GaryC

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True diversity, karaoke with NO limits. Shut up and sing anything you damn well please. And PLEASE dont forget to tip the K.J love ya babe
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Gee this could be considered a momentum "KILLER"!


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I have to add another one: Austria's National Anthem! (I did that on a videotape with my computer) This would be comparable to "Star Spangled Banner" in the USA. It was butchered by a greek boy at one of my show, which caused the owner of the system to do something about it and stop the song. After tat, I left it in my book, but printed the note "Only for special occasions" next to it. What about "The star-spangled banner" in your books?
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-L-
i am sure you are right! but i have to ask

when you said you admitted it when you were wrong and since you are NEVER wrong....

were you wrong to say that

oh, please tell us right from wrong


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I've only heard Star Spangled Banner once... and, it was during a Kamakazi Karaoke! I think it would only be done on 4th of July regularlly, but still never heard it.
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Star Spangled Banner. Heard it once at one of our little Canadian clubs, about 9 years ago. Maybe about a week after Rosanne did her famous version, somebody decided to do her best Rosanne impression.

Dan


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