HI everyone. Last year i got a cavs karaoke player and everyone in my family loves singing now. We have a lot of fun. But I want to know how to get the best voice sound. I know alot has to do with the singer but i want vocal input to be the best it can be. And what i can use to make it sound really good...like what microphones to use and whatnot. I currently have a cavs player 2 mackie th15a's for mains and a behringer 1202fx mixer. Is there anything else i could add to make vocals sound better??? Not looking to be a pro here lol...but wanna have it right. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
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It'll take some adjustments on your mixer and fx. It's pretty well trial and error unti you get the sound you like.
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Changing out your mixer will be a great improvement - bad mic preamps & effects are eh. Adding a vocal compressor and learn how to use it will help. Mics i'd opt for the Shure SM58 first choice, good all around mic pretty much industry standard for vocal mics worldwide, or the Sennheiser 835. Both about the same price. An Eq on the overall system is never a bad thing.
If you do not want to change out your mixer, an external channel strip is a great improvement - again something you'd really need to learn. Even a simple one like http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ProChannel/ would make a great improvement in the vocal sound - it is a single channel, so it will only affect one mic. This is a cheap one, there are much better.
Other than that, like state, play with your channel eq & don't over effect your vocals, effects shouldn't be prominent, just underlying - almost un-noticeable until you turn them off.
I use a Behringer 1202FX as well and I am very happy with it. I also use an Apex 435 studio condenser mic because the Behringer mixer allows you the option to use phantom power for the use of a studio condenser mic. Then I also use a compressor/limiter/gate (Boss Pro CL-50). My karaoke player is Performer's Choice which is connected to the mixer. I also connect a Fender acoustic/electric steel string guitar to the mixer. I mainly use all this for computer recording using a Logitech HD webcam. For video effects I use manycam which I just got. The HD webcam is an improvement from my old webcam which was VGA webcam. This is the set up:
Karaoke player connected to the CD RCA input of the Behringer mixer.
Apex 435 studio condenser mic is connected to the XLR line in of the mixer.
Fender acoustic/electric guitar is connected to the line in of the mixer.
Mixer is connected from RCA output of mixer to single line mono jack line of the Boss vocal compressor.
Single mono line jack from Boss compressor to stereo line in on the Lenovo desk top.
TDK headphones connected to headphones input of computer.
Hi all I'm new to this site. I'm looking into buying a system. We have alot of land upstate NY and host karaoke night about twice a month. My friend sets up his system. I'm looking to purchase a system, What is the best system for outdoor use? I plan on using my laptop, sound quality is a must, and something easy to set up would be good. I live on 10plus acres so loudness isnt a problem. Thanks Dave
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quote:Originally posted by disc-deals: Hi all I'm new to this site. I'm looking into buying a system. We have alot of land upstate NY and host karaoke night about twice a month. My friend sets up his system. I'm looking to purchase a system, What is the best system for outdoor use? I plan on using my laptop, sound quality is a must, and something easy to set up would be good. I live on 10plus acres so loudness isnt a problem. Thanks Dave
It's all dependant on your budget for the PA. For an outdoor show, I personally would run something with a couple thousand watts & at least 1 18" sub depending on how big of an area your are trying to cover, maybe 2. Outdoor shows typically require more power & speakers to effectively have the same type of quality sound as an indoor show due to open area - nothing to contain the sound, wind factors and again the area you are actually trying to cover.
There are so many variables as to what makes a system sound better. One of which is the cables you use, makes a world of difference in the end, yet is not always in the budget. Another way to make vocals sound better is to even add a powered sub. And yes, even though you are doing karaoke it still is an improvement. The sub allows you to take your mains and back off of the bass and concentrate on the mids/highs to tweak it out and keep the sub lower. The best pick would be an EV Live X sub or the EV ZX sub.
I agree with others when they mention better mics like Shure/Senn. We sell all that, yet EV has been around for almost 100 yrs and is the best pick on most things when you wish to spend more money. In NO WAY does this say anything negative about other brands. The EV R300 single wireless is my number one GIVE ME GOOSEBUMPS pick. Only $299.99 and worth every penny.
Adding a processor makes a WORLD of difference and when you think of simplicity mixed with quality, BBE 382i sw is the best pick.
Even adding an EQ. Remember, DO NOT add cheap processors or EQ's, DON'T skimp in this area. And lastly, willing to bet the way you run it, way it is set up can be improved upon. Story: My brother was doing karaoke in a bar and I thought the system did not sound right for that space. I walked over and tweaked it out and everyone said, wow, it sounds better. Then about 30 mins later a tech came in that worked on my team and adjusted it again. And it sounded even better than I did. Hence the levels of knowledge each made improvements.
If you ever get rid of your speakers. Get the EV Live X. We sell them all and those are the best for the money right now. I hope we have been somewhat helpful
Loneman, I see you everywhere on blogs. Nice to see that you not only run a business, but you always seem to help others when you can! Take care everyone.
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