I remember being absolutely delighted when Greg dialed in the "blitzes" for Dog singing this one when we "dropped in" on Greg & Lisa Diamondfire in the UK (okay, we went to spend a week with them having met years ago on this very board). How very cool huh?
Ballroom Blitz (*blitz*blitz*blitz*...)
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Posts: 878 | From: Ottawa, ON, Canada | Registered: Dec 2000
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It's still up in the air. I am trying to talk to the owner about what what they really want for their Country night, and to the extent of it, it means no hard rock or rap. But, they are really keen on just country for one night a week. I am moving towards talking to the KJ through the owner of the bar and either the leasing of the discs or the possibility of being the assistant. She does use one.
Currently, I do mix the PA for public meetings for the City Of Los Angeles for a Division of the Community Development Department. I have also run mix boards as a teenager way back for a couple bands I used to run with and my brother and his friends.
The question is really, do I want to do this? Do I want to give up that one night, because I also do go to a lot of concerts. I also have a good job.
My decision may rest in what I feel will be the best for all involved, myself, the bar I frequent, and the current KJ. Thanks for the opinions and suggestions.
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Also, I have complied a listing of my Country discs and certain country songs that are on non-country discs. I also made a listing of what I call Fringe Country, more to the likes of Eagles (maybe their rock stuff), Little Feat, Seger, Stones - Wild Horses, stuff like that. And I will try to set up a meeting with the owner and KJ and see what we can do to make this one an everybody wins situation.
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quote:Originally posted by Showtimecalls: Any professional Karaoke Singer(lol) can be a KJ. The ones that go out of their way to buy their own stuff want to sing as much as they can each night, as many nights a week as possible. They know how to run a show. Get as many singers up as possible!!!!! .
Wait a minute, Bro!
I've met TONS of good karaoke singers. That doesn't mean that they know SQUAT about how to process sound, how to be good customer service managers (although if they've been to enough bad shows they know what they like and don't like), how to get the best equipment, how to hook it up, how to troubleshoot, how to...
Ya get my drift? SINGING is only 2% of our job! I've been to some good shows where the kj couldn't carry a tune in a bucket, but man did he know how to run a show! And vice-versa, I've been to some shows where the KJ was a fantastic singer, but his shows SUCKED big time!
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quote:Originally posted by Showtimecalls: ... want to sing as much as they can each night, as many nights a week as possible....
We tell everyone who indicates they'd like to host for us that they will actually get to sing less than they currently do. One of our cardinal rules is "Don't get high on your own supply". If they "need" to sing, they are encouraged to go to shows as a patron as hosting will not fulfill this need. Our hosts are allowed to sing once at the end of each rotation and NOT at all during the last hour. They also do not open the show...they pick someone who's voice they are familiar with as the official soundcheck and last song of the night is ALWAYS a group song for everyone to join in on.
We have a limited amount of time to give the maximum number of people turns to sing. Any "Professional Singer" turned KJ will quickly learn this or risk losing clients.
Posts: 878 | From: Ottawa, ON, Canada | Registered: Dec 2000
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Very good topic for me to jump in for my first post. I am working on getting started, but not willing to risk my day job, or my family over it.
I have started by subbing for other hosts, partially to see how much I remember about sound from my high school days (my main boss has had me teach her stuff, so I guess I remember). I have also done a lot of her behind the scenes work (books are no fun to fix), so I have a good handle on that as well.
When I host a show, I sing the first song to kick the night off (who wants to get stuck singing first) and the last song of the night (Goodnight Sweetheart, Goodnight, now get the hell out of the bar LOL). In between, I sing only if there is a need to change direction (you can only do so many slow songs, or sad country songs, in a row) or if I have 5 or fewer singers, to give them a rest.
So, from those standpoints, I know I am ready to run my own business doing karaoke. That said, I will not go with some of the half-assed systems I have had to run. So, with that said, what is everyone's (mainly Dog and Pony) recommendation on a solid starter system with good flexiblity.
------------------ David Morgan Substitute KJ Karaoke with Tracy La Crosse, WI
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Wow David, thanks for the implied respect of our opinion.
If I were adding a 4th system today, I'd buy this list of gear as a starting point. (from top to bottom in the rack)
Furman (Merit or RackRider) Power conditioner Behringer Multicom 4600 - 4ch. compressor/limiter Pioneer or RSQ CD+G Player Behringer Mixing Desk - UB1832FX-pro
Mackie SRM-450 Speakers Digiflex/Hosa Cables Behringer 8500 mics (back-up / drunk mic) at least 1 Shure SM58 (or personal favorite good mic)
Behringer has better bang-for-buck than anything else on the market. However, the all on one board manufacturing makes them susceptible to temperature shifts, Don't leave the gear in your van.
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First of all the resspect is there, just didnt want to sound like a groupie before I actually saw a show. I plan on a trip up north before doing anything for sure, to see the setup in person.
Any ideas on approximate cost for the setup you describe? And, what are your thoughts on digital (computer or super cdg) music?
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Well, actually North, because I would make the trip as a side trip when I go back home to Columbus, Ohio in June....probably towards the end of the month, the way it is looking. I will check the website for your gigs when I head out
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